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when i joined the cia in august 1980, world events were unsettled. our embassy in teheran had been overrun the year before and 52 americans were still being held hostage by a radical new government in iran. the soviet invasion of afghanistan was less than a year old and the next decade we witnessed the slow but ste
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john brennan faces his confirmation hearing to be the head of the cia on thursday this week. he will face questions from senators on the senate intelligence committee who will presumably ask him about his time in the cia of yore under george w. bush and his time as the face of the drone program under president barack obama. one of the senators who sits on the intelligence committee is going to get a chance to question john brennan is oregon democrat john wyden, who is a bit of a contrarian on the issues. he recently wrote a letter to john brennan asking for answers of his own about targeted killing and why it's justified and how it's justified. the questions themselves are so basic that they are almost more telling than some of the answers they could but probably won't receive. questions like, for example, how much evidence does the president need to determine that a particular american can be lawfully killed? also, this is one that sticks with me, does the president have to provide individual americans with the opportunity to surrender before killing them? sand are there any
john brennan faces his confirmation hearing to be the head of the cia on thursday this week. he will face questions from senators on the senate intelligence committee who will presumably ask him about his time in the cia of yore under george w. bush and his time as the face of the drone program under president barack obama. one of the senators who sits on the intelligence committee is going to get a chance to question john brennan is oregon democrat john wyden, who is a bit of a contrarian on...
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anti-war protesters interrupted the proceedings five times accusing the cia of causing huge amounts of collateral damage with drone strikes. the committee's chair, dianne feinstein, eventually cleared the room. later, brennan cited the protesters when he addressed what he called a misperception about the goal of the drone strikes. let's listen. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. so we need to make sure there is an understanding, and the people that were standing up here today, i think they really have a misunderstanding of what we do as a government and the care that we take and the agony that we go through to make sure that we do not have any collateral injuries or deaths. >> robin, when he described this as a last resort to save lives, one reaction i had is, among the lives we save w
anti-war protesters interrupted the proceedings five times accusing the cia of causing huge amounts of collateral damage with drone strikes. the committee's chair, dianne feinstein, eventually cleared the room. later, brennan cited the protesters when he addressed what he called a misperception about the goal of the drone strikes. let's listen. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past...
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when i joined the cia in august 1980, world events were unsettled. our embassy in teheran had been overrun the year before and 52 americans were still being held hostage by a radical new government in iran. the soviet invasion of afghanistan was less than a year old and the next decade we witnessed the slow but steady crumbling of the soviet union. weapons of mass destruction were a concern and u.s. officials were hard at work around the globe trying to prevent regional tensions and an mos if is from turning in to full-scale wars and ominously, the united states about to face an upsurge in terrorist attacks to claim hundreds of american lives in lebanon including a 49-year-old cia officer named bob ames killed in a brief visit to our embassy in beirut and who at the time was my boss at cia. during my 25-year career at cia, i watched up close and participated in history being made in far off corners of the world. as cia fulfilled the critical intelligence roles, collecting intelligence, uncovering secrets, identifying threats, partnering with foreign
when i joined the cia in august 1980, world events were unsettled. our embassy in teheran had been overrun the year before and 52 americans were still being held hostage by a radical new government in iran. the soviet invasion of afghanistan was less than a year old and the next decade we witnessed the slow but steady crumbling of the soviet union. weapons of mass destruction were a concern and u.s. officials were hard at work around the globe trying to prevent regional tensions and an mos if...
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>> i did not take steps to stop the cia's use of those techniques. i was not in the chain of command of that program. i expressed my personal objections and views to some agency colleagues. >> do you have a personal opinion whether water board something torture? >> i have a personal opinion waterboarding is reprehensible and something that should not be done and, again, i am not a lawyer, senator, and i can't address that question. >> nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell joins us now to talk about a busy day on the hill. kelly, let's start with the brennan hearing. what was fascinating to me is unlike most of these recent hearings we've seen, the criticism came from the president's own party, ron wyden, angus king, what did you make of it and what was the reaction afterward? were they satisfied with what they heard? >> well, not entirely yet but there were some things that did please them in the fact john brennan seemed to take seriously their concerns about transparency and he said, of course, that will have to be tested if he's confirme
>> i did not take steps to stop the cia's use of those techniques. i was not in the chain of command of that program. i expressed my personal objections and views to some agency colleagues. >> do you have a personal opinion whether water board something torture? >> i have a personal opinion waterboarding is reprehensible and something that should not be done and, again, i am not a lawyer, senator, and i can't address that question. >> nbc's capitol hill correspondent...
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but some are still concerned if it's legal and ask, what if the cia takes out the wrong person? >> we've got to see all, any and all, of those legal opinions, ones that the bipartisan group of senators asked for, before the vote. >> if you would remove that individual, please. >> reporter: protests just as brennan was getting started. >> i also believe it is important for you to set the record straight -- >> reporter: brennan tells lawmakers he objected to questionable interrogation tactics. >> waterboarding is r reprehensible and something that sha not be done. >> reporter: democrats are confident brennan will be confirmed. >> he was honest, he was forthright, he answered the questions. >> i think you're the guy for the job and the only guy for the job. >> reporter: next week the panel meets to discuss classified material. and of course, that classified material now includes the memo justifying why this administration is using drones. >>> don't panic but or planet is about a week away from a close encounter of an extraordinary kind. an asteroid with the not so sexy name of 2012
but some are still concerned if it's legal and ask, what if the cia takes out the wrong person? >> we've got to see all, any and all, of those legal opinions, ones that the bipartisan group of senators asked for, before the vote. >> if you would remove that individual, please. >> reporter: protests just as brennan was getting started. >> i also believe it is important for you to set the record straight -- >> reporter: brennan tells lawmakers he objected to...
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so that certainly there is no correlation there as far as any type of termination of the cia's detention interrogation program and that increase in strikes. now, i will say that if you look out over the last four years what happened in a number of places such as yemen and other areas where there was, in fact, a growth of al qaeda, quite unfortunately, and so what we were trying to do in this administration is to take every measure possible to protect the lives of american citizens whether it be abroad or in the united states. as well as a maturation of capabilities and inside into those intelligence plots as a result of the investment that was made in the previous administration that allowed us in this administration to take appropriate actions. >> well, let's talk further about the targeted killings. when the targeted killings began several years ago, the first order of effect was the elimination of the senior operational leadership of al qaeda, of many of the leaders, many of the core leaders. obviously, that is a critical priority. we have heard both former cia director michael hayden
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. >> whether he should be the next cia director. >> he's determined, he's strong. >> john brennan is going to face questions. >> a lot of questions. >> about the legal justification for using drone strikes. >> drones set to take center stage. >> to kill american citizens. >> these targets are ethical and justified. >> these are not the drones you're looking for. >> republicans are at war with karl rove. bush's brain, as rove used to be known, when rove was thought to still have a brain, is on a mission to crush backcrap crazy republicans so the party will actually nominate more reasonable candidates who have a chance of winning general elections against democrats. today, a republican who writes big checks to karl rove told politico that the republican party, quote, has had too many candidates who are nut cases. i don't think anybody anywhere with any sense is going to want to elect a candidate who says if your daughter gets raped, it's god's will. give me a break, will you? the problem for karl rove is that he and his rich republican friends may be out numbered by crazy republicans.
. >> whether he should be the next cia director. >> he's determined, he's strong. >> john brennan is going to face questions. >> a lot of questions. >> about the legal justification for using drone strikes. >> drones set to take center stage. >> to kill american citizens. >> these targets are ethical and justified. >> these are not the drones you're looking for. >> republicans are at war with karl rove. bush's brain, as rove used to be...
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news in december two thousand and seven and i said that not only was the cia torturing prisoners but that the torture policy was an official u.s. government policy that was approved at the very top by the president of the united states himself the cia filed what's called a crimes report against me the next day with the justice department the justice department never stopped investigating me from december of two thousand and seven until i was finally arrested in january of two thousand and twelve so to say that this the disk. case is a result of a name that was found in a in an attorney's brief at guantanamo is just simply not true they were looking for something that they were going for something to pin on me what i find most gracious about your case is had you been actually accused of torture of human rights violations you wouldn't have gone to jail know. they they would dismiss any accusation because the u.s. government has classified everything related to its torture practices but yet you go to prison because he talked about it why do you think this administration president obama
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you know, the cia tried many times to kill fidel castro. it was just unsuccessful at it. >> well that's -- >> i'm a realist. >> kill him, i'm not sure. but i can't deny it. i know they tried to defoliate him with his beard. i know they tried to give him hallucinogens. >> the poison cigar i think was meant to kill him, but the point being that i don't want any single individual, and, you know, i'm a supporter of president obama's, but i don't want any single individual, not george w. bush, not barack obama, to have the authority to say we're going to kill these people. and nor do i want it to be obama and a group of people over whom he has authority. i don't want it to be people in the military who answer to him. i want it to be people of an outside branch of government who feel the independence to disagree with the president. >> well said. i think yesterday john brennan was grilled about various aspects of this program, including the rights of americans who might be on the kill list. take a look at how he answered a question on that from se
you know, the cia tried many times to kill fidel castro. it was just unsuccessful at it. >> well that's -- >> i'm a realist. >> kill him, i'm not sure. but i can't deny it. i know they tried to defoliate him with his beard. i know they tried to give him hallucinogens. >> the poison cigar i think was meant to kill him, but the point being that i don't want any single individual, and, you know, i'm a supporter of president obama's, but i don't want any single individual,...
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john brennan was once the deputy cia director. he is now president obama's counterterrorism director at the white house. but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so of an informed high level official of the u.s. government. so maybe that's the president, but maybe that's somebody else. michael isikoff's scoop ended up at "the new york times" today and the "washington post" and the hill and slate and salon and ap to name a few. it was everywhere. and then at a press conference today, the attorney general was asked about it. >> last night nbc reported a white paper that was prepared by the justice department undated, unsigned about the legal -- the legal pinnacles for targeting americans overseas. could
john brennan was once the deputy cia director. he is now president obama's counterterrorism director at the white house. but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so...
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he was told we are the cia. he said i will tell you anything you want to know. >> the cartoonish version of it is let me tell you who we are. i heard about you. he was actually cooperative. >> just the existence. >> yes. back to the ambiguity. one thing that does come across in the movie, but you have to watch it very carefully, the most powerful tool we had in every interrogation we conducted was our knowledge. not one or another technique. >> once you got through the enhanced interrogation process then the real interrogation began, the debriefing. that is with the skill and knowledge with the people who were conducting the sessions. the knowledge base was so good that these people knew that we were not going to be fooled. we had other prisoners in our sights. we would be able to check information against others. they knew that. we mentioned the takedown. they did not know how much khalid sheikh mohammed had told us about $50,000. we would go and give him what we have heard from khalid sheikh mohammed and he th
he was told we are the cia. he said i will tell you anything you want to know. >> the cartoonish version of it is let me tell you who we are. i heard about you. he was actually cooperative. >> just the existence. >> yes. back to the ambiguity. one thing that does come across in the movie, but you have to watch it very carefully, the most powerful tool we had in every interrogation we conducted was our knowledge. not one or another technique. >> once you got through the...
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drone policy and president obama's mick to head the cia readies to testify this afternoon on capitol hill, calls for greater transparency and legal justification for the killings have increased. the outcry reached a crescendo on monday when nbc's michael isikoff obtained a leaked white pair from the government suggesting that the u.s. government can kill american set zenz overseas without any specific intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the u.s. the expansive legal framework set off alarm bells. >> every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. i don't think that as one person said, that is too much to ask. >> the "new york times" wrote "it was disturbing to see the twisted logic of the administration's lawyers laid out in black and white. it brought back unwelcome memories of memos written for president george w. bush to justify illegal wiretapping, indefinite detention, kidnapping, abuse, and torture. "time's" writer david carr put it more success iktly. drones, very effective at targeting and wiping o
drone policy and president obama's mick to head the cia readies to testify this afternoon on capitol hill, calls for greater transparency and legal justification for the killings have increased. the outcry reached a crescendo on monday when nbc's michael isikoff obtained a leaked white pair from the government suggesting that the u.s. government can kill american set zenz overseas without any specific intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the u.s. the expansive...
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and that's why the cia has turned into a paramilitary organization. and i think unwinding that may take some time. >> all right. senator angus king, dr. zbigniew brzezinski, david ignatius, thank you very much. david gregory, thank you as well. >> thanks. >> he's got exclusives on "meet the press" this sunday. >> the two lieutenants here, house and senate, eric cantor and richard durbin talking about the way forward after the state of the union. >> thanks very much, david gregory. good luck with that. >>> when we come back, meteorologist bill karins with the latest on the winter storm bearing down on the northeast. keep it right here on "morning joe." ♪ get ready for a lot more of that new-plane smell. we're building the youngest, most modern fleet among the largest us airlines to ensure that you are more comfortable and connected than ever. we are becoming a new american. a hybrid? most are just no fun to drive. now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what
and that's why the cia has turned into a paramilitary organization. and i think unwinding that may take some time. >> all right. senator angus king, dr. zbigniew brzezinski, david ignatius, thank you very much. david gregory, thank you as well. >> thanks. >> he's got exclusives on "meet the press" this sunday. >> the two lieutenants here, house and senate, eric cantor and richard durbin talking about the way forward after the state of the union. >> thanks...
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another fallacy with this program, the cia is not part of that organization, there's no international authority that says a civilian agency can go over seas and kill people. >> cenk: map we have gone down this rabbit hole and we're in big trouble and it doesn't appear that anybody's doing a damn thing about it. colonel davis if you'd stick around for one more segment, i want to bring in -- >> sure. >> cenk: great i want to bring in michael hastings to talk about these drone strikes. you can care about america you've got to listen to what colonel davis is saying. he wrote a lot of bad things about america. i don't know if that deserves death, but it's not about him. it's about who we are. i want to keep talking about that with colonel divings and michael hastings when we come back. commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's
another fallacy with this program, the cia is not part of that organization, there's no international authority that says a civilian agency can go over seas and kill people. >> cenk: map we have gone down this rabbit hole and we're in big trouble and it doesn't appear that anybody's doing a damn thing about it. colonel davis if you'd stick around for one more segment, i want to bring in -- >> sure. >> cenk: great i want to bring in michael hastings to talk about these drone...
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leon panetta when he was head of the cia was clear that it is torture and the u.s. does not engage in torture. while there is a continuation of policies related to drones and targeted assassinations, i don't think that there is necessarily a continuation of or ttorture. >> well, the debate we are not having is what are the contours of this, and if we want to win hearts and minds to go back to a vietnam plauz, what are thrase, the contours of this? will it expand and come back to hit us in a strong way? >> as someone who knows the pro and con intell and we send people into the area to make people suspicious of each other, and killed people in a domestic sphere, aed on the know the ugliness and the nastiness of that and the ways in which have sat over and against any american notice that we are not the kind of country that does that, but to get on the other side of co-intel to say i need that to be reflected in the 21st history. >> and to that, brennan was the architect of the waterboarding program or in the testimony he said he was aware of at least 50 memos that it
leon panetta when he was head of the cia was clear that it is torture and the u.s. does not engage in torture. while there is a continuation of policies related to drones and targeted assassinations, i don't think that there is necessarily a continuation of or ttorture. >> well, the debate we are not having is what are the contours of this, and if we want to win hearts and minds to go back to a vietnam plauz, what are thrase, the contours of this? will it expand and come back to hit us in...
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the cia's job is to explore violence and death and destruction in the swarm of countries the cia's job is to create even more terrorists. through through the use of these drone strikes then john brennan is the perfect guy to head the cia you know what the. other guy to to to to credit and this is usually this responsible for so much destruction and violence and a war criminal. but at the same time i sort of want to push back on a point were raised in the earlier question i mean when it when if you're in one of these countries how much more overwhelming is it to see an entire battalion of american troops and boots on the ground i mean in some ways isn't there the argument that drone strikes are sort of more humane the oh no it's still it's still a long distance murder you know i mean sixty years ago the united states dropped to the news on hiroshima and nagasaki and incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians doesn't make it doesn't make it he me this is this is the longest and murder whether by any means or sniper or drones or hellfire missile a car you know it's not humane you stil
the cia's job is to explore violence and death and destruction in the swarm of countries the cia's job is to create even more terrorists. through through the use of these drone strikes then john brennan is the perfect guy to head the cia you know what the. other guy to to to to credit and this is usually this responsible for so much destruction and violence and a war criminal. but at the same time i sort of want to push back on a point were raised in the earlier question i mean when it when if...
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waterboard and detention made their voices heard at yesterday's confirmation hearing for john brennan as cia director. >> they won't even tell congress what country we are killing children in. >> please -- >> senator feinstein. >> if you could please expedite the removal. >> more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? are they more important? do your job! >> the hearing serve as a public discussion of the most controversial counterterrorism policies that began under president george w. bush and, in part, have continued and expanded under president obama. brennan's defense of the secrecy surrounding the administration's most questionable program, targeted assassinations using drone aircraft, was as opaque as the program itself. >> what we need to do is optimize transparency on these issues, but at the same time optimize secrecy and the protection of our national security. i don't think that it's one or the other. it's trying to optimize both of them. >> some senators, including ron widen and angus king, pushed brennan to explain the legal at and justification for assassinating ame
waterboard and detention made their voices heard at yesterday's confirmation hearing for john brennan as cia director. >> they won't even tell congress what country we are killing children in. >> please -- >> senator feinstein. >> if you could please expedite the removal. >> more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? are they more important? do your job! >> the hearing serve as a public discussion of the most controversial counterterrorism...
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set for a boost as an architect of america's drone strategy faces a confirmation to be head of the cia. growing anger into news here as the prime minister pledges to reshuffle the government on the assassination of an opposition leader is the most part he rejects the plan. around the world around the clock twenty four seventh's you're with r.t.m. carried on. now it's exactly one year into the opening of the twenty fourteen winter olympic games in russia a special judgment of clocks in the country's biggest cities become the countdown for the event that will be held in the black sea resort city of sochi the clock is also ticking for the organizers as you say final preparations are on track and finishing touches are being done to make the games forgettable authorities are also keeping a close eye on how work is being completed before sochi becomes host to hundreds of thousands of sports men and women than guests from around the globe russian president vladimir putin has been personally checking the limpid values and said he was generally happy about what he saw but he did have some harsh
set for a boost as an architect of america's drone strategy faces a confirmation to be head of the cia. growing anger into news here as the prime minister pledges to reshuffle the government on the assassination of an opposition leader is the most part he rejects the plan. around the world around the clock twenty four seventh's you're with r.t.m. carried on. now it's exactly one year into the opening of the twenty fourteen winter olympic games in russia a special judgment of clocks in the...
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what would you do if you were president or a commander in chief, same thing, or general or cia director. and you choose whether we send in 20 guys, we're going to lose 5 or 10. if we use a drone, we'll kill five family members. >> commanders make those decisions all the time. and they're damn difficult to make. if you look at what's happening in yemen now, you have whole villages that literally watch the drones for days above them. and they see them as signals and messages of america power or arrogance and they realize that they're going to come down and strike somebody there. and it may hit them as well. and that has a real potential -- >> where is that happening right now? >> in yemen. you've got to weigh those things in. >> gene? >> i'm somewhat less concerned about what has happened today than what's going to happen in the future. and i really think that's -- so my issue is not so much that the decision was made to go after ai law key. >> what should be the protocol? >> i think what they do is fine but there should be something like the fisa court that can -- look. as a practical ma
what would you do if you were president or a commander in chief, same thing, or general or cia director. and you choose whether we send in 20 guys, we're going to lose 5 or 10. if we use a drone, we'll kill five family members. >> commanders make those decisions all the time. and they're damn difficult to make. if you look at what's happening in yemen now, you have whole villages that literally watch the drones for days above them. and they see them as signals and messages of america...
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more analysis on bravo obama's pick for the cia head as well as the implications that the choice holds for other countries they might have to step in where we had to right now we're joined by ahmed rashid the president of the political lobbying group happy nationalists forum sir thanks so much for taking the time with us to speak with us now of course john brennan is most famous or infamous lee known as the architect of the u.s. drone program there are some concerns about his interrogation. techniques when it comes to u.s. pakistan relations considering the the tedious i guess background of the drone program has had there especially how it plays out among the population what do you think his candidacy or him being at the helm of the cia would mean for your country pakistan the over the last three years we've had a coup going on between you and the pakistani intelligence agency the i.s.i. right now you can see there's a chance truce but if john brennan is confirmed i think we're looking at a nother stage of instability in this entire region. baucus not. confirming the obama administrati
more analysis on bravo obama's pick for the cia head as well as the implications that the choice holds for other countries they might have to step in where we had to right now we're joined by ahmed rashid the president of the political lobbying group happy nationalists forum sir thanks so much for taking the time with us to speak with us now of course john brennan is most famous or infamous lee known as the architect of the u.s. drone program there are some concerns about his interrogation....
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news in december two thousand and seven and i said that not only was the cia torturing prisoners but that the torture policy was an official u.s. government policy that was approved at the very top by the president of the united states himself. the cia filed what's called a crimes report against me the next day with the justice department the justice department never stopped investigating me from december of two thousand and seven until i was finally arrested in january of two thousand and twelve so to say that this that this case is a result of a name that was found in a in a an attorney's brief at guantanamo is just simply not true that they were looking for something that they were going for something to pin on me what i find most gracious about your case is ahead you've been actually accused of torture of human rights violations you wouldn't have gone to jail know. they they would dismiss any accusation because the u.s. government has classified everything related to its torture practices but yet you go to prison because he talked about it why do you think this administration pre
news in december two thousand and seven and i said that not only was the cia torturing prisoners but that the torture policy was an official u.s. government policy that was approved at the very top by the president of the united states himself. the cia filed what's called a crimes report against me the next day with the justice department the justice department never stopped investigating me from december of two thousand and seven until i was finally arrested in january of two thousand and...
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things, john brennan coordinates the kill list, and so his confirmation hearing to become head of the cia is drawing an unusual amount of interest and attention. we'll get to what he said and the reaction at the top of the show. >>> also, more and more people on the right are asking, who is karl rove and why should we listen to him anymore? rove wants electable republicans nominated. the tea partiers want their people in, real right wingers, and they're trashing rove and establishment republicans in the process. >>> plus, you've probably heard that chuck hagel once said the following, quote, the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. i'm not an israeli senator. i'm a united states senator. but what you probably haven't heard is the rest of that interview and why some people who know what hagel really said aren't angry with him at all. >>> and why is chris christie talking so much about his weight? maybe because he wants to talk about it on his terms, and why might that be? because perhaps he's running for president. >>> finally, the recently fired dick morris admits he was wron
things, john brennan coordinates the kill list, and so his confirmation hearing to become head of the cia is drawing an unusual amount of interest and attention. we'll get to what he said and the reaction at the top of the show. >>> also, more and more people on the right are asking, who is karl rove and why should we listen to him anymore? rove wants electable republicans nominated. the tea partiers want their people in, real right wingers, and they're trashing rove and establishment...
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drone strikes to torture techniques tough questions are in store for barack obama's nominee for the cia head at his confirmation hearing in the senate which has just kicked off now it's already been interrupted by protests but it has now resume john brennan is widely seen as an architect of the u.s. drone strategy in an effort to avoid scrutiny around brennan's can of the see the u.s. president has even agreed to hand over classified documents justifying the killing of american terror suspects abroad now that is after years of keeping it a secret as art and its you can reports confirmation might broaden the horizons for america's drone fleet. in the shadows no more drones are moving into the mainstream was drone makers in the u.s. military pushing to defend the killing machine drones are more properly titled remotely piloted vehicles allow us to do is to project capability without projecting vulnerability and their revolutionizing north america by loudly nice to see and keep you from half a world away a major drone manufacturer lockheed martin has financed an hour long documentary on dr
drone strikes to torture techniques tough questions are in store for barack obama's nominee for the cia head at his confirmation hearing in the senate which has just kicked off now it's already been interrupted by protests but it has now resume john brennan is widely seen as an architect of the u.s. drone strategy in an effort to avoid scrutiny around brennan's can of the see the u.s. president has even agreed to hand over classified documents justifying the killing of american terror suspects...
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and kills suspected terrorists. >> if i were to go to cia and the cia was involved in any type of lethal activity, i would damn well make sure this committee had that information. absolutely. >> reporter: brennan refused to confirm that the u.s. was behind the 2011 strike that killed an american citizen, al qaeda leader, anwar al awlaki, born in new mexico. but he forcefully defended making him a target. >> before he died, he was intimately involved in activities that were designed to kill innocent men, women and children and mostly americans. he was determined to do that. >> reporter: critics say the administration has relied so heavily on targeted killings that they don't even try to capture terrorists anymore. brennan said that's not true. >> there's not been an occasion that i'm aware of where we had the opportunity to capture a terrorist and we didn't. and we decided to take a lethal strike. >> reporter: the drone strikes have also come under intense criticism for killing innocent bystanders, something the u.s. has never specifically acknowledged. >> i believe we need to acknowledge
and kills suspected terrorists. >> if i were to go to cia and the cia was involved in any type of lethal activity, i would damn well make sure this committee had that information. absolutely. >> reporter: brennan refused to confirm that the u.s. was behind the 2011 strike that killed an american citizen, al qaeda leader, anwar al awlaki, born in new mexico. but he forcefully defended making him a target. >> before he died, he was intimately involved in activities that were...
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set for a boost as an architect of america's drone strategy faces a confirmation to be head of the cia. growing anger in tunisia the prime minister pledges to reshuffle the government the assassination of an opposition leader in this party rejects the plan. around the world around the clock twenty four seventh's you're with r.t. i'm carried on staff. now it's exactly one year into the opening of the twenty fourteen winter olympic games in russia a special giant clocks in the country's biggest cities become the countdown for the event that will be held in the black sea resort city of sochi but a cloak is also ticking for the organizers who say final preparations own trick and finishing touches are being done to make the games forgettable authorities are also keeping a close eye on how work has been completed before sochi becomes host to hundreds of thousands of sports men and women and guests from around the globe russian president vladimir putin has been personally checking the olympic venues and said he was generally happy about what he saw though he did have some harsh criticism term
set for a boost as an architect of america's drone strategy faces a confirmation to be head of the cia. growing anger in tunisia the prime minister pledges to reshuffle the government the assassination of an opposition leader in this party rejects the plan. around the world around the clock twenty four seventh's you're with r.t. i'm carried on staff. now it's exactly one year into the opening of the twenty fourteen winter olympic games in russia a special giant clocks in the country's biggest...
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get more analysis on bravo obama's pick for the cia head as well as the implications that the choice holds for other countries they might have to step in where we had to right now we're joined by ahmed rashid the president of the political lobbying group happy nationalist forum sir thanks so much for taking the time with us to speak with us now of course john brennan is most famous or infamous lee known as the architect of the u.s. drone program there are some concerns about his interrogation. techniques but when it comes to u.s. pakistan for lation it's considered raining the the tedious i guess background of the drone program has had there especially how it plays out among the population what do you think his candidacy or him being at the helm of the cia would mean for your country pakistan. over the last three years we've had a coup going on between. you and the pakistani intelligence agency i decide right now you can see there's a tunes truce but if john brennan is confirmed i think we're looking at a number of scenes of instability in this entire region of guns and buckets not.
get more analysis on bravo obama's pick for the cia head as well as the implications that the choice holds for other countries they might have to step in where we had to right now we're joined by ahmed rashid the president of the political lobbying group happy nationalist forum sir thanks so much for taking the time with us to speak with us now of course john brennan is most famous or infamous lee known as the architect of the u.s. drone program there are some concerns about his interrogation....
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people are moving their focus elsewhere so-called black sites secret prisons were established by the cia during its well publicized war on terror unlike the cause however these secret facilities were never publicly discussed by the authorities the us claimed they could hold prisoners outside the us because then they wouldn't be subject to the geneva conventions to international law and humanitarian law reports suggest such prisons were in existence from two thousand and two basically not long after the events of nine eleven the us government denied the existence of these prisons until two thousand and six now the only country in europe which has acknowledged the presence of a secret cia facility on its territory is lithuania and if you were to look at it you will you will see something almost a deliberate site except for the imposing fences surrounding it likewise a suspected secret prison in poland is believed to be located here apparently in one of the most beautiful spots in the country according to various reports mostly from journalists or human rights organizations so-called high v
people are moving their focus elsewhere so-called black sites secret prisons were established by the cia during its well publicized war on terror unlike the cause however these secret facilities were never publicly discussed by the authorities the us claimed they could hold prisoners outside the us because then they wouldn't be subject to the geneva conventions to international law and humanitarian law reports suggest such prisons were in existence from two thousand and two basically not long...
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other prison camps around the world later in the program a look at the so-called black sites secret cia facilities u.s. government design denies even exists. french fighter jets have launched air strikes against islamist militants in northeast mali targeting logistical centers in training camps is human rights activists accuse the mali army of war crimes including extrajudicial killings torture and ethnic reprisal attacks or he has an exclusive report exposing the realities on the ground of some of the most battle scarred parts of the country. these i mean in this mob the area we've discovered allegations of war crimes information about them is under the control of mali's military government. i think it's getting more and more the she called to talk to people a lot of. human rights activists who are trying to identify witnesses all saying that people. are feeling the heat they are scared to speak a lot of people here. are very sure fool the malian army seems to be doing whatever it can to prevent people from speaking to openly and of as they put it this government took advantage of the
other prison camps around the world later in the program a look at the so-called black sites secret cia facilities u.s. government design denies even exists. french fighter jets have launched air strikes against islamist militants in northeast mali targeting logistical centers in training camps is human rights activists accuse the mali army of war crimes including extrajudicial killings torture and ethnic reprisal attacks or he has an exclusive report exposing the realities on the ground of...
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sent them as america's next best thing john brennan if confirmed will soon be at the helm of the cia and no one doubts that under him the program will expand even further the goal is pretty much clear to be able to control the world with a remote control in washington i'm going to. i don't britain for your eyes only private messages sent between internet users could be decoded and monitored the government says it's to keep the country safe that's coming up. officials from two near zero ruling is this party have reportedly rejected the prime minister's plan to dissolve the government and hold new elections the p.m.'s decision comes after another wave of public fury police fired tear gas at dozens of angry protesters in the capital tunis on wednesday after they attacked the offices governing party the rest was sparked by the assassination of a key opposition leader made some claiming the authorities were responsible let's call him mr o'keefe and these the ministers concessions you know home the storm. this could act as a catalyst for more violence and the war and. of course tunisia wit
sent them as america's next best thing john brennan if confirmed will soon be at the helm of the cia and no one doubts that under him the program will expand even further the goal is pretty much clear to be able to control the world with a remote control in washington i'm going to. i don't britain for your eyes only private messages sent between internet users could be decoded and monitored the government says it's to keep the country safe that's coming up. officials from two near zero ruling...
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and president obama's nominee for the top position in the cia may be under criticism from drone activists but seems to have the support of lawmakers over his targeted assassinations program. despite a final consensus on a reduced e.u. budget for the next seven years the agreement now faces a serious threat from the european parliament which is likely to ban the deal. coming up peter lavelle as guests debate america's use of drones in cross talk here on are today. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle the nobel peace prize winner and his drones the recently leaked memo on the obama administration's use of drones has shocked many in the world and others it begs more questions than answers it would appear the white house is acting as judge jury and executioner obama can kill anyone anywhere without any oversight or accountability. to cross-talk obama and his drones i'm joined by no sharkey in london he is a professor of artificial intelligence and robots at the university of sheffield and chairman of the international committee for robot arms contr
and president obama's nominee for the top position in the cia may be under criticism from drone activists but seems to have the support of lawmakers over his targeted assassinations program. despite a final consensus on a reduced e.u. budget for the next seven years the agreement now faces a serious threat from the european parliament which is likely to ban the deal. coming up peter lavelle as guests debate america's use of drones in cross talk here on are today. hello and welcome to cross talk...
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sent them as america's next best thing john brennan if confirmed will soon be at the helm of the cia and no one doubts that under him the program will expand even further the goal is pretty much clear to be able to control the world with a remote control in washington i'm going to. and in britain for your eyes only private messages sent between internet users could be decoded and monitored the government says it's to keep the country safe that's coming up. officials from two near zero ruling is this party have reportedly rejected the prime minister's plan to dissolve the government and hold new elections the p.m.'s decision comes after another wave of public fury and police fired tear gas at dozens of anger protesters in the capital tunis on wednesday after they attacked the offices of government party gun rest to a spark by the assassination of a key opposition leader made some claiming the authorities were responsible let's call him mr o'keefe and leaves the home minister is centuries you know home a storm. this could act as a calculus for more violence and war and. of course unity
sent them as america's next best thing john brennan if confirmed will soon be at the helm of the cia and no one doubts that under him the program will expand even further the goal is pretty much clear to be able to control the world with a remote control in washington i'm going to. and in britain for your eyes only private messages sent between internet users could be decoded and monitored the government says it's to keep the country safe that's coming up. officials from two near zero ruling is...
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other prison camps around the world later in the program we'll look at the so-called black sites that cia facilities the u.s. government denies even exist. but first french fighter jets have launched air strikes on islamists in northeast mali targeting logistic centers and training camps this is human rights activists accuse the mali an army of war crimes including extra judicial killings torture and ethnic reprisals r.t. has an exclusive report exposing the realities on the ground of some of the most battle scarred parts of the country. these i mean in this mob the area we've discovered allegations of war crimes information about them is under the control of mali's military government. i think it's getting more and more that he called to talk to people a lot of. human rights activists who are trying to identify witnesses off saying that people. are feeling the heat they are scared to speak a lot of people here. very few fool the malian army seems to be doing whatever it can to prevent people from speaking to openly. this government took advantage of the media's interest in all and for th
other prison camps around the world later in the program we'll look at the so-called black sites that cia facilities the u.s. government denies even exist. but first french fighter jets have launched air strikes on islamists in northeast mali targeting logistic centers and training camps this is human rights activists accuse the mali an army of war crimes including extra judicial killings torture and ethnic reprisals r.t. has an exclusive report exposing the realities on the ground of some of...
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they have the aircraft used by the cia very important evidence because. everyone tonight we've reported different destinations of your control however just like their american counterparts the authorities in warsaw have been extremely frugal with the details and investigation into the secret prisons has been dragging on for almost five years now but what earth during its course remains unknown therefore the extent of the investigations progress just like any information about the torture of prisoners regarding who what where when and how all of it remains a mystery and the investigation is rumored to conclude next month by the looks of it whatever its outcome may also be a state secrets and swept under the carpet. turning now to some other stories making headlines across the globe hundreds protests in pakistan administered kashmir the call on india to renounce its territorial claims they also demanded an end to violence in the troubled region this comes less than a month after five soldiers from both sides were killed in a firefight both pakistan and indi
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drawn used by conventional forces for force protection and really what i object to is the use by the cia to invade in the countries that the united states is not at war with and i can't see the legal justification for this they argue a lot of article fifty one which is that the idea that somebody has you know is an imminent threat and i don't think that some foot soldier loading a couple of miles on to a truck in the yemen as much of a threat imminent threat ok david. i think your summary was actually an understatement not an exaggeration i mean this was a white paper summarizing a memo that takes it as beyond question that non americans can be killed with drones anywhere and seeks to justify the killing of the u.s. citizens if they are abroad and even if they are not in a hostile field of activity although it seems rather an action and rather a hostile one to kill them if you ask me and so they're taking it as beyond question that they can kill americans if they are in those other areas the only place where they won't kill someone is an american within the united states and that may be
drawn used by conventional forces for force protection and really what i object to is the use by the cia to invade in the countries that the united states is not at war with and i can't see the legal justification for this they argue a lot of article fifty one which is that the idea that somebody has you know is an imminent threat and i don't think that some foot soldier loading a couple of miles on to a truck in the yemen as much of a threat imminent threat ok david. i think your summary was...